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For the first of our collaborative podcasts with Rinse, Rinse DJ Jyoty caught up with grime and garage veterans Bushkin, Mak 10 & MC Kie to discuss how the bubbly garage sound evolved into the darker, more MC-focussed genre that we call grime today.

Check out the full podcast below to learn about the evolution of the two genres from the people that lived it…

Keep checking back on the size? blog for more size? sessions content, and if you fancy learning a little more about the history of UK garage then click here, or if grime is more your thing, then click here.

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